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Post by Luke W on Jul 11, 2017 13:03:15 GMT -5
As Marie-Laure says multiple time's that the world is all gravity and chance, so is it possible that the small diamond in the house is actually cursed? Right from the beginning the doctors and people say that the family is cursed, but that was before Marie's father had it. Plus, the causes of death to Madame Manec and the imprisonment of Etienne and Daniel were common occurences, so is the stone actually cursed?
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Post by annamichie on Jul 13, 2017 18:49:23 GMT -5
I think that people want it to be cursed. that way when bad things happen they can blame it on the cruse. during war maybe people spread rumors about it being cursed because it will distract them from the scary life going on around them.
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Post by Milla Beremski on Jul 13, 2017 22:15:41 GMT -5
I think that the stone had a stereotype about it, which was that it was cursed. All the stories and legends that have been told about it made everyone believe that it was actually true. Because of this, every time something bad happened to the stone holder's life, they could blame it on the stone and not on reality. The stone was used to make life seem a bit better than it actually was. All the bad things that happened in the world made people not want to believe that everything was so bad. So, they blame it on the curse to reassure themselves that they don't need to worry about whether or not the misfortune is real.
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Post by millaberemski on Jul 13, 2017 22:19:32 GMT -5
I think that the stone had a stereotype about it, which was that it was cursed. All the stories and legends that have been told about it made everyone believe that it was actually true. Because of this, every time something bad happened to the stone holder's life, they could blame it on the stone and not on reality. The stone was used to make life seem a bit better than it actually was. All the bad things that happened in the world made people not want to believe that everything was so bad. So, they blame it on the curse to reassure themselves that they don't need to worry about whether or not the misfortune is real.
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Post by stefanie on Jul 18, 2017 15:12:05 GMT -5
The stone was probably "cursed" because many people believed it to be cursed, giving it the power to appear cursed, so that whenever anything goes wrong, it can be blamed on the stone. This reminds me of an episode in Supernatural where a monster was only existent because people believed it to be real, allowing it to cause mayhem, much like people's beliefs that the Sea of Flames was cursed. Many people did not even know if there truly even was a diamond behind those 13 doors, so it all originates from people's beliefs and the legends of the stone.
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Post by melanie on Jul 19, 2017 13:05:07 GMT -5
I believe that the stone was 'cursed.' Although in the end, Etienne, who Marie-Laure loved did not die, as the curse on the stone might suggest, there was still misfortune that occurred on those that Marie-Laure loved. Yes, it could be that because people believed in the curse that made it more daunting whenever anyone in possession of the stone came upon another unfortunate event to their surroundings. However, when the author wrote, "'Poor Monsieur LeBlanc.' 'Hasn't had an easy road, you know. His father dead in the war, his wife dead in childbirth. And now this?' 'Like they're cursed.' 'Look at her. Look at him.' 'Ought to send her away'" (Doerr 27), it seemed as though the author was comparing Marie-Laure to the Sea of Flames, as though Marie-Laure was 'cursed.' So my question is, do you think the author intended for the reader to make a connection with Marie-Laure and the Sea of Flames? In Marie-Laure's story was it the Sea of Flames that was cursed or was it Marie-Laure?
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Post by Calliope on Jul 21, 2017 16:30:30 GMT -5
I do not think the store was cursed, instead, I think that the story of the prince who found the Sea of Flames may not have even existed, that his story was just a legend inspired by the diamond. When people noticed unfortunate events, they immediately thought it was the diamond, though it was just a terrible coincidence. As the jewel changed hands more and more mishaps occurred, but the real killer things that people at that time period could not understand or prevent, like how the indian king, and the duchess died of illnesses.
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Post by ethanashbrook on Jul 29, 2017 18:31:15 GMT -5
I think that the condition of the stone was left to ambiguity. The author, throughout the novel, demonstrates the power of myth. Marie-Laure's father goes mad over the Sea of Flames, and von Rumpel dedicates his entire life to it. In a way, leaving it to ambiguity allows the reader to experience the emotions and ideas that these characters went through.
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Post by grace on Jul 30, 2017 23:07:35 GMT -5
I don't think the stone is cursed I believe that people just want something to blame for their misfortunes and over time the stone became a scapegoat for just that. Like you said most of what happened to Marie-Laure's family was common during this time with or without the stone the circumstances of Marie's life would not have changed.
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Post by Emma Kaer on Aug 28, 2017 2:26:37 GMT -5
I believe the Sea of Flames holds a lot of symbolism within it that connects directly to the story. The diamond's curse is spoken about since the beginning of the story, and is carried out through most of the book, it must connect to the main idea somehow. I believe it symbolizes everything that is going on at the time of the war. It symbolizes all the bad luck and hatred that's being passed around during this time period. Though the diamond itself may not be the reason everything is doomed, it symbolizes that something as small as a precious gem can ruin everyone, just as one persons hatred can be snowballed into a massacre.
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